One of the main arguments among the theologians is the discussion of Allah’s form. According to the Sunni-Maturidi theology, attributing any form to Allah is heresy!
Anti-Maturidi, Anti-Sunni Anti-Salafi Hadiths and facts ready to hit the intellects of demonic scholars!
According to the salafi theology, Allah has a definite form, with hands, face, eyes and legs.
Jesus Christ or the Prophet Muhammad (a.s) being the definite form of God is rejected by the Muslim theologians.
Although some saying about the Prophet (a.s) attributes passive divinity. such as: “I am Ahmad, with the letter “meem” or “M”, the theory of Ahad (the One God) became “Ahmed” (the Prophet) exists in some Sufi sayings!.
There are various Hadiths which talks about Allah existing with form with in space and time, although in His Majesty , He exists beyond time and space.
The Hadith about time, the Hadith about Allah uses forms other than His own to visit a group of people, Allah creating Adam and Angels sitting and watching it in a location of the creation of Adam, are a few important Hadiths to mention.
Allah Existing as Time:
Sahih Al Bukhari 7491 Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, “Allah said: “The son of Adam hurts Me by abusing Time, for I am Time; in My Hands are all things and I cause the revolution of night and day.’ ” (See Hadith No. 351, Vol. 6)
This fact can also be found in the Hindu scripture, Bhagavad Gita,
https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/chapter/11/verse/32/
BG 11.32: The Supreme Lord said: I am mighty Time, the source of destruction that comes forth to annihilate the worlds. Even without your participation, the warriors arrayed in the opposing army shall cease to exist.
The Supreme Lord of Hinduism, which is Paramathma (supreme soul) is the Time according to the Holy Book of Hinduism!
Bhagavad Gita could have been written around 300BC or earlier.
Allah existing in time:
Quran 22:47 And they urge you to hasten the punishment. But Allah will never fail in His promise. And indeed, a day with your Lord is like a thousand years of those which you count.
This Ayah (verse of the Quran) also found in the Book of St.Peter and Psalms.
2 Peter 3:8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
Psalm 90:4 For in Your sight a thousand years are but a day that passes, or a watch of the night.
We can see that no religion is an alien to themselves. All religions came to exist with traditions borrowed from the former religions, as well as embracing contemporary explanation of it’s founders.
But there is a problem with these time lapse in the presence of Allah. According to the science , there are black-holes in the galaxy that has much larger time lapse that the time lapse in the presence of Allah/yahweh!
Recent BBC documentary on Sagittarius-A claims that, 2 minutes of time on the outer-circumference of this black hole would equal 700 years on earth.
According to Hindu scripture, Bhagavad Gita, one day of Brahma equals billions of our years. These claims in the Vedic theology, puts Semitics deities as gods of lower realms and spheres.
Bhagavad Gita 8:17
By human calculation, a thousand ages taken together form the duration of Brahmā’s one day. And such also is the duration of his night.
Purport
The duration of the material universe is limited. It is manifested in cycles of kalpas. A kalpa is a day of Brahmā, and one day of Brahmā consists of a thousand cycles of four yugas, or ages: Satya, Tretā, Dvāpara and Kali. The cycle of Satya is characterized by virtue, wisdom and religion, there being practically no ignorance and vice, and the yuga lasts 1,728,000 years. In the Tretā-yuga vice is introduced, and this yuga lasts 1,296,000 years. In the Dvāpara-yuga there is an even greater decline in virtue and religion, vice increasing, and this yuga lasts 864,000 years. And finally in Kali-yuga (the yuga we have now been experiencing over the past 5,000 years) there is an abundance of strife, ignorance, irreligion and vice, true virtue being practically nonexistent, and this yuga lasts 432,000 years. In Kali-yuga vice increases to such a point that at the termination of the yuga the Supreme Lord Himself appears as the Kalki avatāra, vanquishes the demons, saves His devotees, and commences another Satya-yuga. Then the process is set rolling again. These four yugas, rotating a thousand times, comprise one day of Brahmā, and the same number comprise one night. Brahmā lives one hundred of such “years” and then dies. These “hundred years” by earth calculations total to 311 trillion and 40 billion earth years. By these calculations the life of Brahmā seems fantastic and interminable, but from the viewpoint of eternity it is as brief as a lightning flash. In the Causal Ocean there are innumerable Brahmās rising and disappearing like bubbles in the Atlantic. Brahmā and his creation are all part of the material universe, and therefore they are in constant flux.
In the material universe not even Brahmā is free from the process of birth, old age, disease and death. Brahmā, however, is directly engaged in the service of the Supreme Lord in the management of this universe – therefore he at once attains liberation. Elevated sannyāsīs are promoted to Brahmā’s particular planet, Brahmaloka, which is the highest planet in the material universe and which survives all the heavenly planets in the upper strata of the planetary system, but in due course Brahmā and all the inhabitants of Brahmaloka are subject to death, according to the law of material nature.
https://vedabase.io/en/library/bg/8/17/ (verses 16-20)
Sahih Muslim 182a Abu Haraira reported:
Allah assumes false forms to meet servants:
The people said to the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ): Messenger of Allah, shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection? The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: Do you feel any trouble in seeing the moon on the night when it is full? They said: Messenger of Allah, no. He (the Messenger) further said: Do you feel any trouble in seeing the sun, when there is no cloud over it? They said: Messenger of Allah. no. He (the Holy Prophet) said: Verily you would see Him like this (as you see the sun and the moon). God will gather people on the Day of Resurrection and say: Let every people follow what they worshipped. Those who worshipped the sun would follow the sun, and those who worshipped the moon would follow the moon, and those who worshipped the devils would follow the devils. This Ummah (of Islam) alone would be left behind and there would be hypocrites too amongst it. Allah would then come to them in a form other than His own Form, recognisable to them, and would say: I am your Lord. They would say: We take refuge with Allah from thee. We will stay here till our Lord comes to us. and when our Lord would come we would recognise Him. Subsequently Allah would come to them in His own Form, recognisable to them, and say: I am your Lord. They would say: Thou art our Lord. And they would follow Him, and a bridge would be set over the Hell; and I (the Holy Prophet) and my Ummah would be the first to pass over it; and none but the messengers would speak on that day, and the prayer of the messengers on that day would be: O Allah! grant safety, grant safety. In Hell, there would be long spits like the thorns of Sa’dan He (the Holy Prophet) said: Have you seen Sa’dan? They replied: Yes, Messenger of Allah. He said: Verily those (hooks) would be like the thorns of Sa’dan, but no one knows their size except Allah. These would seize people for their misdeeds. Some of them would escape for their (good) deeds, and some would be rewarded for their deeds till they get salvation. When Allah would finish judging His bondsmen and because of His mercy decide to take out of Hell such people as He pleases. He would command the angels to bring out those who had not associated anything with Allah; to whom Allah decided to show mercy. those who would say: There is no god but Allah. They (the angels) would recognise them in the Fire by the marks of prostration, for Hell-fire will devour everything (limb) of the sons of Adam except the marks of prostration. Allah has forbidden the fire to consume the marks of prostration. They will be taken out of the Fire having been burnt, and the water of life would be poured over them, and they will sprout as seed does In the silt carried by flood. Then Allah would finish judging amongst His bondsmen; but a man who will be the last to enter Paradise will remain facing Hell and will say: O my Lord I turn my face away from Hell, for its air has poisoned me ard its blaze has burnt me. He will then call to Allah as long as Allah would wish that he should call to Him. Then Allah, Blessed and Exalted, would say: If I did that, perhaps you would ask for more than that. He would say: I would not ask You more than this, and he would give his Lord covenants and agreements as Allah wished, and so He would turn his face away from the Fire When he turns towards the Paradise and sees it, he will remain silent as long as Allah wishes him to remain so. He will then say: O my Lord I bring me forward to the gate of the Paradise. Allah would say to him: Did you not give covenants and agreements that you would not ask for anything besides what I had given you. Woe to thee! O son of Adam, how treacherous you are! He would say: O my Lord! and would continue calling to Allah till He would say to him: If I grant you that, perhaps you will ask for more. He will reply: No, by Thy greatness, and he will give His Lord promises and covenants as Allah had wished. He would then bring him to the gate of the Paradise, and when he would stand at the gate of the Paradise, it would lay open before him. and he would see the bounty and the joy that there is in it. He would remain quiet as long as Allah would desire him to remain silent. He would then say: O my Lord, admit me to Paradise. Allah. Blessed and Exalted, would say: Did you not give covenants and agreements that you would not ask for anything more than what I had granted you? Woe to you! son of Adam, how treacherous you are! And he would say: O my Lord, I do not wish to be the most miserable of Thy creatures. He would continue calling upon Allah till Allah, Blessed and Exalted, would laugh. When Allah would laugh at him, He would say: Enter the Paradise. When he would enter, Allah would say: State your wish. He would express his wishes till Allah would remind him (the desire of) such and such (things). When his desires would be exhausted Allah would say: That is for thee and, besides it, the like of it also. ‘Ata’ b. Yazid said: Abu Sa’id al-Khudri was with Abu Huraira and be did not reject anything from the hadith narrated by him, but when Abu Huraira narrated:” Allah said to that man; ind its like along with it,” Abu Sa’id said:” Ten like it along with it,” O Abu Huraira. Abu Huraira said: I do not remember except the words:” That is for you and a similar one along with it.” Abu Sa’id said: I bear witness to the fact that I remembered from the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) his words:” That is for thee and ten like it.” Abu Huraira said: That man was the last of those deserving of Paradise to enter Paradise.
According to the Old Testament, the LORD do not change. According to Islamic theologians, Allah is absolute and Allah cannot be anything other than Him.
But according to this hadith, Allah would take up a form other than His own form!.
This is a real trouble for the worshipers of Sunni and Salafi theology.
Angels sitting and watching Allah creating Adam:
Sahih Muslim 2841: Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, created Adam in His image with his length of sixty cubits, and as He created him He told him to greet that group, and that was a party of angels sitting there, and listen to the response that they give him, for it would form his greeting and that of his offspring. He then went away and said: Peace be upon you! They (the angels) said: May there be peace upon you and the Mercy of Allah, and they made an addition of” Mercy of Allah”. So he who would get into Paradise would get in the form of Adam, his length being sixty cubits, then the people who followed him continued to diminish in size up to this day.
Finally, the Quran tells that Allah did not take any witness when He created any creations:
Quran 18:51 I made them not to witness the creation of the heavens and the earth, nor their own creation; nor choose I misleaders for (My) helpers.
According to the New Testament, Allah created everything through Jesus Christ, His Word and Spirit (Also see Quran 4:171)
Mishkat 5762 Ibn ‘Abbas told that when some of the companions of God’s messenger were sitting, he came out, and when he came near them, he heard them discussing. One of them said God had taken Abraham as a friend[1], another said He spoke direct to Moses[2], another said Jesus is God’s word and spirit[3], and another said God chose Adam[4]. God’s messenger then came out to them and said, “I have heard what you said, and you wonder that Abraham was God’s friend, as indeed he was; that Moses was God’s, confidant, as indeed he was; that Jesus was His spirit and word, as indeed he was; and that Adam was chosen by God, as indeed he was. I am the one whom God loves, and this is no boast. On the day of resurrection, I shall be the bearer of the banner of praise under which will be-Adam and the others, and this is no boast. I shall be the first intercessor and the first whose intercession is accepted on the day of resurrection, and this, is no boast. I shall be the first to rattle the knocker of paradise, and God will open for me and bring me into it accompanied by the poor ones among the believers, and this is no boast. I shall be the most honourable in God’s estimation among those of earliest and latest times, and this is no boast.” 1. Cf. Quran; 4:125. 3. Cf. Quran; 4:171. 2. Cf. Quran; 4:164. 4. Cf. Quran; 3:33 Tirmidhi and Dirimi transmitted it.
The Sunni and salafi theologians unanimously agree that, the Word of Allah is Part and Attribute of Allah, Divine, eternal and untreated.
But the words in/verses in the Quran are subject to abrogation and replacemen according to the Quran itself. But the Sunni scholars attributes eternity to the Quran and other revealed books, although the Quran tells that it can be subject to abrogation.
Quran 2:106 If We ever abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten, We replace it with a better or similar one. Do you not know that Allah is Most Capable of everything?
But Allah’s attribute “The Word and the Spirit” cannot be altered or abrogated. This is showing us the knowledge of truth that Allah is with His Word and with His Spirit, often referred as the Holy Spirit (Rooh Al Qudus).
But the Quranic scholars say that Gabriel is the Holy Spirit. But Gabriel is an Angel and created servant of God, not the eternal attribute of God as Roohullah!
The Dawah (Islamic missionary) scholars claim that, the Prophet Muhammad (a.s) is the Holy Spirit by misinterpreting the Gospel of John!. All these claims of external scholars are corruption and misguidance.
We can understand that, these Hadith authors, narrators and reporters are not in the fold of the Maturidi, salafi or Ahlu Sunnah Wal Jamah, hahahaha
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